Cecilia Appollonia Sehr Swenson (Fulton's Great Grandmother)



Written over the winter of '84-'85

From what countries did your family emigrate? When was this and where did they settle?
From Germany. Mother’s family came to Illinois and Dad’s to Wisconsin. Dad’s folks moved to Alvard, Iowa when they got married. Never got back to Wisconsin. Have so many relatives in Wisconsin.
What were your grandparents’ names?
Michael and Appollonia Baatz
Nicholas and Anna Sehr
Do you remember names of family members before them?
Enders Schuetz in Wisconsin, Stricts in Illinois, Strubeys in Cananda
What do you know about your grandparents’ early years? Where did they grow up?
Mother’s  lived at Aurea, Illinois.   Mother aways talked about the big fruit that was raised there then they moved to Rock Valley Iowa.  Dad’s folks were from Wisc when they got married they came out to Larchwood Iowa to farm.
What do you remember about your grandparents or what stories have you heard about them?
My grandpa and grandma Sehr’s folks. Both got married on the same day in the same church. I think they were the first ones married in the new church, the church is still there as nice as ever. I was there in 1976 in Wisconsin.
Were there other relatives who were special to you or who played a  role in your upbringing?
Yes, I had 16 aunts and uncles. I was the oldest grandchild on the Baatz side and the third oldest on the Sehr side. So got a lot of attention cause all lived around us til I was 6 and we moved to Minnesota.
What are your parent’s names?
Anna (Baatz) Sehr and Edward Nicholas Sehr
When and where  were they born?
Anna-Illinois, Edward-Alvord, Iowa
What was your mother’s maiden name?
Baatz
What do you remember most about your mother from your childhood?

Was a very good mother, very religious. We never missed church or lenton services and was very hard. Had such old cars I can remember Dad building a cob fire under motor for couple hours to warm when was cold never had church after nine then. Dad shoveled so much snow in our long lane so we could go to church. Roads were mud, had to walk home for mile and half many times if rained while gone.
What do you remember most about your father?
Was the leader or boss but never out of way.  Only thing life would have been better if Dad wouldn’t have drank so much, she bore it so good.
What special traits did you value most about your mother and father?
Showed us our way . We always honored them. How hard they had to work never had much but were always happy. Visited so much with all neighbors and helped each other out.
What work did your parents do?
Hard working farmers.  Mother worked right with dad. She was a very good hay stacker with the pitch fork. Milked many cows by hand til us kids got big enough to take her place. Always raised big garden and lots of chickens.
What is your birthdate?
September 27, 1921
Where were you born?
At a farm home at Inwood Iowa. Stopped at the farm yet about 1972, the house was still lived in.
Was there anything unusual about the circumstances of your birth?
Not that I know of.
Were you born in a hospital or at home?
At home.
What is your full name and how was it chosen? Does it have a special meaning?
Cecilia Appollonia Sehr. Cecilia named after Cecilia Baatz, Appollonia named after Grandma Baatz.
Who in your family do you most look like?
My mother.
How many brothers and sisters did you have?( List them in the order they were born and include children who may have died early in life or at birth)
Cecilia- September 27, 1921
Mary-Septemebr 20, 1924 (died August 14, 1963 of cancer)
Nicholas John-May 30, 1926
Joseph-December 23, 1928 (died May of 1929, choked between the bed and the wall)
Helen Marie-January 1, 1932
Leonard Emmet-May 14, 1935
JoAnn Lorraine-May 19, 1938
Where did you fit among them?
I was the oldest.
To whom did you feel closest?
I would say Mary
How did you spend your time together?
We played a lot of cards and games. Also out doors a lot in snow and ice. A lot of time in grove, had a big plum grove and apple orchard.
Did you ever take trips or vacations with your family? Where did you go? Tell about a favorite one.
Mostly to Iowa to aunts and uncles cause all within 50 miles. Never no big trips. Mother and dad only went on one trip to Canada in the early 40s. They really enjoyed it with John and Nellie Roman, they had an aunt and uncle up there.
Was another language besides English spoken in your home? What was it?
Dad and mom could speak German, not to good. Last years kind of forgot it.
Did your family attend a church or synagogue? Was religion an important part of your family life?
Yes. We hardly ever missed mass had bad roads always, always went to all devotions too. Very  good Catholics.
What were the family rules in your household?
To follow the straight path.
Did your family have enough money? Was it ever a concern for you?
No, my family never had much money,  barely enough to get along but never seemed to mind. Know now last years  folks never had much to live on but they always seemed happy, good to everybody.
What  were one or two of the worst times in your family like?
One time dad had pneumonia, doctor came out many days. Never remember mothers being sick til at last when she got a tumor of the brain. She died on the operating table, she was all full of cancer. Was such shock because never suspected it.
What  were one or two of the best times like?
When celebrated my folks 25 anniversary in 1945, had a barn dance in our barn. Uncles and aunts played. Our family get togethers in later years.
When you were little…(2-12 years)
Where did you live? What do you remember most about you home(s)?
I was born at Inwood Iowa on a farm, moved to Larchwood and then moved from there to Minnesota when I was 6.
Describe what it was like where you grew up. How is that place different now?
It was a place we all worked for in 1940 we built a new barn. Lot of the lumber in Dad and I sawed one whole winter nearly every day. Had ½ mile row of big cottonwood trees then in spring had lumber mill come sawed into lumber had to cure all summer. Always was going to built house but never money enough.
Did you have any nicknames? What were they and did you like or dislike them? 
Yes I was called girlie by mom and dad. Later Girt by some. My brother Nicholas was called Bunny for many years. Rest never got nicknames.
Did you have any pets? Tell about them.
Yes. We had a Shetland pony for quite a few years. A few billy goats but didn’t keep long, into too much trouble.
What did you do for fun? Describe your favorite toy or game.
Cards and games played lot in our big grove and orchard had a big plum orchard. Toys weren’t many them day.
What is your first memory going back as far as you can?
Remember when lived at Larchwood about 4 or 5 our house was right by gravel road and I went to play in sand and nearly got run over. The man of the car took me to the house.
Were you ever really sick?
No, not until I had my heart attack November 9, 1984. I still didn’t feel sick I hardly ever got the flu or colds my whole life.
What do you remember about the grammar school  you attended? How did you get there?
Was one and a half miles from home we nearly walked all the time and never missed very many days.  First years had about 30 in country school only school I ever went to. I liked school.
Did you have any favorite books or stories?
No but I read every book our library had cause never had an over lot not like town schools.
What did you want to be when you grew up?
I guess never had set on any one thing for sure. Knew couldn’t go to high school so went to work doing house work and candled eggs for quite a while in  Luverne.
What did your parents want you to do or be?
They never said what to do I guess they figured to just take it’s course.
Do you remember how much things cost?
Clothes-Didn’t cost too much but still didn’t have money for very much.
Food-had nearly all own food from garden and own meats and milk.
Movies-Never went to movies till moved to town to work where I candled eggs.
Toys-mostly dolls, wagons and sleds.
Gasoline-can’t remember way back but know when we got married was 16 cents a gallon.
Stamps-I can remember 1 cent postcards cause sent quite a few to cousins and 2 cents for letters and we wrote quite a few then.
When you were growing up (12-20 yrs)
What household chores or jobs did you have to do?
Had lots of chores to do; milked cows, slopped hogs, shoveled lots of snow never had loaders then. Sawed lot of wood by hand for stoves.
Did you get an allowance? How did you usually spend it?
No we never got allowance folks would buy us a little candy when went to town. Never nothing else.
What did you and your family use for transportation?
Had older cars. Dad could keep them running not very good heaters in them remember when years ago went to Iowa in winter. Uncle would wrap us kids up in horse blankets and pin shut so we wouldn’t get out cold.
 How many years of secondary school did you complete?
Went through 8th grade.
What parts of school did you like best? What parts did you like least?
Reading I liked all school even walking.  There was 20 of us that walked a mile together all big families.
Did you play any sports in school?
We played lots of tag, kick the can, a game called cricket and baseball, anti I over
Were you involved in any music or drama activities? Tell about them.
Just a Christmas program every year. The teachers put so much into it, all the families came. School was over packed then such good programs.
Did you receive any awards or prizes for achievements in athletics, scholarship, etc?
Yes. I got a few rewards for attendance and reading.
Were you a member of any clubs? What were they?
Belonged for a few years in 4-H
What songs and dances were popular?
The big apple jitter bug and raglan waltz and two steps were a lot of fun.
What kind of clothing did you wear? How is it different than clothes worn by young people today? Who influenced your thinking during this time and why?
Was very simple but was always satisfied, ordered most all out of catalogs. Sears or Wards, got it by mail.
Who influenced your thinking during this time and why?
I guess mother did.
As a teenager, how did you get along with your parents?
All of kids got along good, I can’t ever remember much fighting. I don’t think folks allowed it and we knew who was boss.
At what point did you move away from home? Why and where did you go?
I think I was about 16 to 20. I worked in homes. I done chores, also raised big gardens for them and I got a whole three dollars a week for a couple years and then I went to Luverne to Candle eggs for about one year when met Chuck. I worked with his sister Evelyn. Then Evelyn and I went out to Washington for awhile, worked in restaurant at Spokane. Evelyn’s aunt and uncle were there. Then to California but left for home cause was and wasn’t letting no travel.
Family traditions and celebrations…
Did you celebrate any special family or ethnic holidays at your house? Describe them.
Holidays always had big meals but not much company, just family.
As a child, how did you usually celebrate your birthday?
Just another day, I can’t even remember having a cake.
What was the best gift you ever got when you were young?
A dress set one Christmas.
What was the best gift you ever gave?
Can’t remember any, never gave presents only time folks got the Christmas presents, never got each other any.
Were there any traditional or favorite recipes that were usually prepared for family gatherings?
Potato pancakes and the favorite potato balls
Bean soup
Homemade buns and rolls and mother could bake the best bread. I never could get bread like hers.
Lots of potatoes, meat and garden things and fruit.
What religious holidays were celebrated in you home? Describe the family traditions associated with each, special foods served, favorite music and readings, etc.
Went to all holidays and church services. Never missed mass or Lenten service and always had Lenten service three times a week and missions a couple times a week once a year. Whole family went mud, snow or whatever-lots of times Dad got up early in morn to shovel out driveway and road too cause no snow plows came.
What family or holiday traditions have been the most meaningful to you?
I guess Christmas was always looked forward to. Always only one present which we appreciated more than people do now days when we get so much.
Easter always had lot of colored eggs, can’t remember having candy. We all liked hard boiled eggs.
We always put a plate on table for Christmas would get present by plate and orange, few nuts and little candy. Always went to midnight mass. Always so nice Christmas trees in church. Seemed like singing so nice for Christmas mass.
When you got married…
How did you meet grandpa/grandma?
I was working in Luverne candling eggs with Charle’s sister so met grandpa then and grandma, great folks.
How old were you when you met?
21 or 22
What attracted you to each other?
I guess being with his family through Evelyn his sister and working in Luverne.
What kinds of things did you like to do together?
Went to shows and dances mostly. With lots of neighbors kids at that time.
What do you remember most about the courtship?
Our days while I worked in Luverne. Then Evelyn and I went to Washington to work for awhile til war was getting bad so came home.
When did you decide to get married? Describe the marriage proposal.
When Charles was drafted to go to the army in Dec. ’44 asked if I’d accept a ring Christmas of ’44 and wait for him to get back from army.
What did your parents say when you told them?
Were happy except wanted him to become catholic which I did too and he agreed.
When and where was the wedding?
February 13, 1947. St. Joseph in Jasper,MN by Father Diekman
What did you wear?
I wore a gray two piece suit with bell arms. Mary wore a blue suit. Chuck and Doc wore navy pin stripe suits.
What do you remember most about your wedding day?
A nice warm day water puddles all over. Ate breakfast in café in Jasper.
Who was there (in general)?
Johnnie Baatz, Vanden Busskes they cooked the dinner. And our folks’ sisters and brothers. Dinner at folks home.
Did you go on a honeymoon? Tell about it.
Went to Sioux Falls first night and second night to Rock Rapids went to show. Was a blizzard day after when came home. Barely got through the road.
What was your adjustment to married life like? Were there any surprises?
Was happy to be married and could be a housewife. Got furniture little by little ordered refrigerator from Wards and stove. Have refrigerator yet in our basement in 1985.
Where did you live after you first got married?
At Chuck’s folks til we got a little house built there. After Chuck’s dad died we moved in with his mother til she died. Then with Doc til bought our place in 1963.
What stands out in your memory about your first year of marriage?
Building our little house and Chuck working too, took all summer just about.
Tell a favorite story or two about grandpa/grandpa.
Went on our first vacation in 1952 fishing for 3 days. Evelyn and Clarence too, took Rosemary with us cause was nursing her. Had to come home cause Clarence’s cousin’s boy drowned in a tank. Next vacation in 1984 we went to Canada with Arnold and Helen seen lots of relatives from dad’s side. Was an aunt of my dads by name of Strubie now has 460 descendants and nearly all stayed around Lanagan. Helen, I and three of my aunts were up there in ’77 and in ’76 we went to Wisconsin to see realtives.
Have you been married more than once? When and to whom?
No don’t ever want to.
How times were different then…
Done without much but enjoyed it, didn’t mind at all.
Entertainment-Went to each other’s homes to play cards and for birthdays with cousins.
Toys-Simple and not so much.
Chores or cleaning-Had chickens for few years always cleaning with kids.
Shopping-Done lots by catalog. Not to much groceries always had garden, own meat, eggs and milk. After moved here got milk from neighbors.
Transportation-First had our two door Chevy, then a white Ford then from about ’55 had station wagons. Still have a wagon, Dad doesn’t like those little cars.
Money/economy-Always just had enough. Economy now is terrible especially when I have a $12,000 hospital  doctor bill. But will make it as always. Didn’t have no insurance, always did but just dropped then.
Working-At first harder washing etc. had to carry water, heat iron so many girls dresses before slacks came into style. Now everything more automatic.
Cooking-Always took lot of cooking besides our family for few years, Grandma Swenson and Doc too but Grandma was a lot of help.
Raising a family-Lot of work but kept everybody out of trouble wish was able to do over. Would maybe do a few things different, take more time with family before all gone.
What do we have now that you didn’t have then?
Automatic washers
Food more ready to serve
Clothes of better material, no ironing
Better heaters, not coal burners and wood which took lot of work.
What did you have then that we don’t have now?
Big gardens
 Chicken flocks
 Butchering own meats
 Clothes racks to dry clothes in winter
Big Events in your life…
What was your proudest moment?
I guess to have a family of eleven
Saddest or most painful time?
When our folks were sick and passed away.
Where have you lived as an adult? Where have you most enjoyed living and why?
We always lived on farms. I really enjoyed living on our farm since “64 when ti is your own means so much more.
What was the biggest trip you have ever taken as an adult? Where, when and with whom?
To Canada with Helen and Arnie. Was a very nice trip.
Did you ever serve in the military or become involved in wartime service? When and where?
Charles was in Japan from Aug ’45 til Oct ‘46
What schools did you go to?
I went to district 31 Springwater township til 8th grade.
What kinds of courses did you take?
Reading, writing and arithmetic. I liked them all.
What honors or educational degrees have you earned?
8th grade. Never had a chance to go to high school, buses didn’t come around then.
Apart from school, what have been your most important learning experiences?
When worked in Luverne candling eggs and as waitress when out in Washington, rest just by doing.
To what organizations have you belonged? (List only those that have been most important to you)
Circle in church, home extension since 1950 still belong to it, always neighbors.
Have you ever been hospitalized? What for?
For birth of all kids and then my bad heart attack November 9, 1984.
Are there any illnesses or medical conditions that seem to run in your family?
Yes, heart. Uncle Willie and Albert Baatz died quite young. Aunt Cecelia and am sure Joe Baatz did too cause backed into barn roof and broke his neck.
What was your first fulltime job? How much did you earn and what responsibilities did you have?
I did housework, milked cows, raised chickens and hauled manure for a whole summer for $3 a week. Thought that was a lot then
What kinds of work have you done?
For pay-Housework, candling eggs, waitress
Volunteer-church work
What have been your favorite hobbies or pastimes?
Gardening, flowers, making quilts, reading.
Do you have any collections (e.g. stamps, coins, rocks)?
No.
Are there any family heirlooms that have been passed from one generation to another?
A clock from my folks wedding, a gift from mother’s folks.
Have you ever met anyone famous?
No.
What major inventions have been developed in your lifetime?
Many rockets, men on the moon and nice cars.
What scientific or medical discovery in your lifetime has impressed you most?
Vaccinations for polio which was very bad in late ‘40s and early ‘50s. Now if only could find something for cancer.
Have you been actively involved in politics, either as a candidate or campaign supporter?
No nearly always so discussed with who they run. I think if John Kennedy wouldn’t have been killed would have been so much better world all around.
As you look back do you have any favorite years? What made them so special?
I think they were all favorite, always knowing you accomplished more.
Is there a time in your life you would like to live over?
Yes. I would love to live it all over again.
Your views and feelings…
What are some of the best books you have ever read?
In raising the kids I guess I never got into reading books at all. Did like magazines and papers about all time was for reading.
What is one of your favorite sayings?
A stitch in time saves nine
Early to bed, early to rise makes a man healthy and wise.
What do you think is special or unique about our family?
I guess like all families, like to get together.
What do you value in a friend?
Time spent together and in times of need.
Who are or were your closest friends? How long have you known them and what makes them so special?
Walter and Jean Baustian, Joann Baatz, Randall and Lucille Erdman, Kenny and Elaine Stroh-all good neighbors.
In times of trouble who or what has helped you pull through?
No one can more than Charles, he can handle trouble so much better that I can.
What issues or causes have you felt strongly about?
When they started social security for older folks was a blessing for my folks, Charles’ folks never received it. Hope is some left so we can receive it.
What values or religious beliefs do you hold dear?
My catholic upbringing. Wish I could have had more influence on my children for the faith.
What major happenings in the world have affected you life most?
The low farm prices for last few years. Were so good during 60s-70s but guess had to come to an end.
What are your feelings about the world today? What concerns you the most?
The starving people when we have so much, can’t find a market for it.
What are your views of our political system?
A very upset one at this time so far in debt and so war minded and don’t worry about our people much at all.

What’s your best advice for your grandchildren?
Always do the best you can.
What are your hopes and dreams for the future?
That there should be peace and no starving like is now and that small farms could be always which have doubts can be.
About your children…
What are your children’s names and when were they born?
Barbara Ann 11/7/47
Patricia Rose 11/22/48
Monica Kathryn 8/27/50
Rose Mary 3/15/52
Virginia Mae 3/15/54
Michael Charles 12/27/55
Charlotte Marie 6/19/57
Anita Marie 3/12/59
Curtis Edward 1/6/61
Joseph John 7/25/62
Vincent Paul 12/1/64
How did you choose their names? Have any of them been passed down through the family?
Always had quite a time, often older ones helped pick them out. I liked all the names.
What are some of your favorite recollections of your family life when your children were young?
Living at Charles’s family home with his mother for quite a few years. She was so good to kids and had a creek on farm where much time was spent when got company.
Going to family gatherings which were many and large at parks and homes.
Going to grandpa and grandma Sehr’s nearly every Sunday.
How were your children different from each other when they were little?
I don’t think they were much different. They were never too bad or maybe we overlooked it as a regular occurance.
In what ways did you raise your children like your parents raised you?
Tried not to spoil them but I guess you do in some ways.
In what ways did you raise them differently?
They had more things than we had, got to go to more things than we did but not as much as other kids did.
What parts of being a parent have been most difficult or trying for you?
I guess raising the kids the way you want to.
What parts were easiest or most rewarding?
When getting them all on their own way.
How did you find out that you’d become a grandparent for the first time? How did you feel?
I guess they told me was glad to have grandchildren they are such a joy.
By what names have you been called by your grandchildren?
Grandma, Grannie
What have you liked most about being a grandparent?
Having the grandchildren to take care of cause always give back to the folks.
What are your wishes for your grandchildren?
That they have a happy and prosperous life